Vitamin Caveat
We all know at least one person who constantly pops handfuls of vitamin tablets. I always feel both curious about and wary of these peoples' daily health rituals:
Am I missing something wonderful?
Of course not, they're a money-wasting load of bull.
The vitamins look so shiny and colorful, and they're all natural!
You're a trained professional. You know those things are put out by snake-oil salesmen. Plus they're absurdly expensive!
Look at the pretty bottles they come in...
I NEED FIVE BOTTLES OF THE RELAXATION / ENERGY / POTENCY / CALMING / JOINT RELIEF / ANTI-INFLAMMATION / MUSCLE TONIC FORMULA, AND I NEED IT NOW!
I went through a pill-popping period once. About 12 years ago my wife picked up one of Andrew Weil's books and we started taking enough pills for an octogenarian.
Did I feel better? These things are so hard to gauge, because I felt fine before that. I told myself that the idea was prevention, but my reptile-brain just doesn't compute that very well when it comes to pill-popping. Exercise, yes. The eating of whole foods, yes. But somehow not vitamins.
If I'm paying two hundred bucks a month for the pills, then, yes, I'm going to say that I feel better on the pills. But after half a year or so, when I suddenly found myself not paying two hundred bucks a month for pills, I definitely felt better, and hunted around for studies that debunked the taking of vitamins.
That's a flip approach, but I imagine that deep down, most people are, like me, instant gratification junkies. Supplement-wise, I've now got it down to three: green tea (not really a supplement), fish oil, and protein powder. With the possible exception of the fish oil, I can feel them all working. Ask me in a year what I'm taking and fish oil will be the most likely to go--despite all the hype.
I thought about all this recently because Tara Pope-Parker has an interesting piece in the New York Times about a study about the effects of Vitamin E and Selenium supplementation on incidence of prostate cancer. According to the piece,
The SELECT trial, which stands for the Selenium and Vitamin E Cancer Prevention Trial, was studying whether selenium and vitamin E, either alone or in combination, could lower a man’s risk for prostate cancer. More than 35,000 men were taking part...
But the National Cancer Institute announced Monday that the trial, which was scheduled to end in 2011 after seven years, is being halted early. A review of the data shows no benefit in using the supplements to prevent prostate cancer. In addition, slightly more users of vitamin E were getting prostate cancer, and slightly more selenium-only users were developing diabetes.
Researchers initiated the study because preliminary results from other studies suggested that taking the supplements may contribute to lowering prostate cancer risk.
Now I've been an herbal-remedy / vitamin guy from time to time, and I understand the argument that there are almost certainly effective treatments out there which the AMA has yet to discover or approve. But the results of a study like this are a point in the "caution" column when it comes to medicating with vitamins and other supplements.
As we've hopefully learned by now, "all natural" doesn't mean "all safe." If we believe--and I do, at least theoretically--that vitamins and other remedies can have potent therapeutic benefits which equal or exceed the benefits of pharmaceutical drugs, then it stands to reason that such remedies can have the same kinds of detrimental side effects we see in traditional drugs as well.
Caveat emptor, my friends.
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Omega 3 - Fish Oil
Good Article I agree with you 100%. If we took all the vitamins that the experts said were necessary we wold be spending 500 bucks a month easy. Just like you are doing – you need to figure out which ones seem to help. I too drink the green tea, protein supplement and I take an omega 3 supplement. i also take a supplement tat keeps my testosterone levels higher. This is the only thing I take that you do not. I think over time it helps me stay thinner and more muscular. Also keeps me in the mood for the wife if ya no what i Mean.
Unlike you I am a firm believe in the omega 3 though. I have heard and read so many good things about it. I really think it helps with recovery time. When I used to work out I’d get sore for days. I really don’t get that now. My back and neck have had a lot less pain then in recent times. So I really think the omega 3 helps with that kind of thing – Inflammation. So let us know in a year if you are still using the fish oil. To Learn More About Omega 3 → Salmon Oil
by Dan the Omega Man on Oct 29, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
Hey Omega...
Yeah, I’m inclined to believe the Omega-3 stuff too…there’s so much good information out there to support using it. I’m just saying that of the ones I take it would be the easiest one to drop because I don’t immediately ‘feel’ its effects in the way I feel the effects of protein supp and green tea. It’s the hedonistic argument and I know it’s not rational.
by Andrew Heffernan on Oct 29, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions
creatine?
I was a little surprised to see that you don’t use creatine in some form. Is that because you don’t believe it works or because you fear side effects?
I’ve been an off an on user of creatine for, oh, about 4 years now, and I certainly can tell a different when lifting intensely. There are many forms of creatine out there, and I’ve found a couple that don’t seem to work at all, but the ones that do work, seem to work quite well.
I like the 'tine...
…and agree that it’s surprisingly and immediately effective. At the moment I’m training for triathlon, though (it’s SoCal, so they still have races in December!), and so I’m not really looking for the kind of strength or hypertrophy which creatine can definitely help with!
I actually had my first bad creatine experience a few weeks ago: I slammed a teaspoon in water the night before a race (hoping for a little help on my end-of-race kick). I hadn’t taken it for awhile and got the runs something fierce for 24 hours; I almost had to drop out of the race! I guess I need to switch brands.
Generally, though, creatine seems to be safe and effective.
by Andrew Heffernan on Oct 29, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions
Isolated nutrients and vitamins, hmmm...
The whole concept of a vitamin pill is deeply flawed in my humble opinion – why would isolating one part of a nutritious food and then synthetically recreating it in pill form, which may not even be absorbable, beget any benefit?
We seem to have moved away from isolation in program design, so why not in supplementation? Isolated nutrients do not do anything positive, studies on 100 or less are not generally not significant and even more so when they are funded by those with vested interests or interpreted by those with a subjective opinion (i.e. they already ‘know’ what they want the research to show so are able to skew it that way).
I can’t recommended enough reading Muscle Speed and Lies by David Lightsey.
Then stop looking at quick fixes – train hard, eat real food and keep at it, results don’t come quickly periodically they come slowly and consistently. You wouldn’t expect to master the guitar with a four week program using fish oil to ‘help you remember’ chords and riffs, would you?
by DontBelieveTheHype on Oct 30, 2008 9:10 AM EDT reply actions
I agree and disagree :)
I think the CONCEPT of vitamin supplements is perfectly sound. I do, however, concede that people currently believe they are getting far more benefit than they actually are when taking vitamin supplements. Clearly there are issues with absorption, time of consumption, etc. I fully agree that eating real food is the best alternative today. But I see no problem with pursuing technology that can enable a more efficient (and convenient) method of vitamin uptake. While it might take some time and scientific work to get it right, I don’t see any reason why “isolating one part of a nutritious food and then synthetically recreating it in pill form” couldn’t beget benefits.
Certain isolated nutrients (protein, creatine to name a couple that I have used) most clearly DO have positive benefits. And there is reliable scientific information out there for you on those two. I am not one to buy fad supplements (never have and almost certainly never will). If there are a couple that work out there, you have to sort through hundreds that don’t, and there is no reliable information source that help you sort them out (at least that I have found). Trying to find the good ones is not worth the expense to me.
Again, with respect to protein and creatine, they are no quick fix. They don’t excuse you from doing all the hard work. You still need to eat right and work out long and hard. They just allow you to realize the maximum benefit of the work you do.
If you want to learn to play the guitar, it would behoove you to take every advantage you can get: buy a book, take lessons, buy the accessories you need. I don’t see any difference.
by stuntmonkeys on Oct 30, 2008 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions






