No Excellence, Please
There's a very silly piece in the NEW YORK TIMES by Tara Parker-Pope today that asks (of women readers, presumably) "would you rather look like Dana Torres (sculpted 41-year-old Olympic swimmer) or Estelle Parsons (a peppy 80-year-old stage actress who exercises regularly and from all reports, is happy and healthy)?"
It's a leading question, of course. Parker-Pope wants her readers to say that Torres' body is "too muscular," "too ripped" and "too hard to maintain" (she writes that the Olympian spends $100K a year on massage therapists, coaches, nutritionists and the like), and that Parsons, who beams at us amiably while she curls tiny plastic weights, is sensible and moderate, and we'd all be better off and happier and get along better with others if we settled for Parsons' physique than if we were extreme and narcissistic enough to pursue physical perfection.
This moralistic view of exercise and fitness just won't die, and it makes me want to barf.
As an Olympic athlete, whose livelihood depends on her body's ability to perform, and who spends vast amounts of time and money honing her body, Torres looks like that NOT because she fretted over every little ripple and bulge, but because she has trained her body to function optimally. If gaining 20 pounds of fat would help her to improve her times in the water--as does with the long-distance cold-water swimmer Lynne Cox--I have no doubt she'd willingly do it. So asking, "Would you like to have abs like these?" is a little like asking someone if they would like to have fingertip callouses like a guitar virtuoso's. As with Torres and her abs, the guitarist needs his callouses to to his job, and they're an indirect result of his pursuit of excellence at that job.
Torres' sculpted musculature is also a reflection of her dedication. We can argue till the cows come home over whether or not we find her body attractive or overbuilt, but the hard work reflected by that physique is virtually impossible NOT to admire. Her body isn't a fashion statement, it's a finely-honed instrument. To compare her to an average, diligent exerciser like Parsons isn't just comparing apples and oranges, it's comparing apples and nuclear-powered rockets.
(There's a lesson in this about the superior effectiveness of performance-based training over looks-based training in here, but I've played that old saw many times before).
As to the question of whether we'd want to look like Torres, the real question should be, would we like to spend 9 hours a day working to be able to do the things that she does? Indeed, do we have that kind of commitment to anything in our lives? Even if money and time weren't a factor, most of us would shrink from even a fraction of this kind of effort.
It's ridiculous, of course, to shake our heads at Torres' "extreme" behavior: she's expected to go to extremes because she's representin' in Beijing. But I'm going to take it a step further: I'm going to go ahead and defend ANYONE who wants to take up a sizable physical challenge, and tell those naysayers who tsk and whisper and scold to pipe down. If a friend wants to learn a new language, or take up pottery, or learn to sing opera, or get a CPA, NO ONE criticizes her. But if she decides she wants to do the Ironman, or compete in a bodybuilding contest, or win her division at a power lifting meet, all we hear are cries of "unhealthy," "extreme" and, most especially, "Well I wouldn't want to look like that."
For the people who say, or mutter, or even THINK these things, I have four words: Sow. Wer. Gra. Ypes.
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Maybe the question should be, “Which one do you want representing the United States in the Olympics?” Someone posted in the comments on that story that only a gay man would want a woman with a body like that. Wrong! I think she’s pretty hot but then I like people who try to be the best at what they are passionate about. Why compare these two, lets compare Dana with the average woman having the All American Slam at Denny’s. What a ridiculous article. Of course I get the same thing when I tell someone I’m training for an adventure race or triathlon. R U Crazy?
by ExtremeTrek on Jul 29, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mass media rocks! (not)
Man, I’m such a self-hater, working in broadcast media and all :) As ET says, the dedicated look does more for me. It took some teeth-pulling, but (I think) I’ve finally convinced my girl that her back during pull-ups is far more appealing than some skinny-fat shoulder blades poking people’s eyes out. Mmmm… scuze me, I’ll be right back…
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Okay, sorry about that. Anyway, it’s nice having someone to challenge me in the gym rather than someone who’s on the couch watching “reality TV” when I both leave and return from working out, skinny or not. Skinny is not healthy. Skinny-fat may be a step along the path toward health, but it’s certainly not the destination. Now, if I could just land the Powerball so I could quit everything and train all day every day :)
Go get ‘em, Dana!
by Phaedrus49er on Jul 30, 2008 6:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that for the NYT and many of its readers, the "acceptable" workout goals for women are health and weight loss. They can’t wrap their heads around a woman who trains out of love of competition or out of a desire to be the best in the world. And the article’s main assumption, that women need a "physical ideal" to aspire to, annoyed the heck out of me.
Here’s a suggestion for the NYT: Take that pic of Fedor that went up on Bloody Elbow (another SB Nation blog) last week, and ask their readers if he ought to work harder on getting visible abs… I’m sure their readers would have no problem pointing out that it’s about performance, not looks. They just can’t (yet) see that the same holds for a woman.
Mich
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by Michal on Jul 29, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good points...
You bring up a good point, Michal, with the Fedor pic: you don’t get nearly as much indignation and moralizing about men’s bodies as you do about women’s. An article like the NYT one on men’s physiques would have been even more absurd: “Hey fellas! Would you rather look like Tyson Gay or Kelsey Grammer?” (There’d be no point in asking!) Fedor’s poofy physique seems to inspire affection; but women’s bodybuilders, models, and women athletes are always being scrutinized and chided for being unnatural, extreme, etc. A double standard between the sexes, perhaps? Say it ain’t so.
by Andrew Heffernan on Jul 30, 2008 9:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I will gladly take
the guitar player’s callouses if I could play the entirely of Boston’s “Don’t Look Back” as well as Tom Scholz.
This is a no brainer. No haus-frau should want to look like Torres because, as you note, Torres has made herself a finely tuned instrument of swim speed. And really, does anyone want to look like any 80 year old lady? do 80 year old ladies want to look like 80 year old ladies. But, if you do what 80 year old ladies do, even really active ones, you’re probably gonna look like one.
Man, I need to quit my desk job.
by PotKettleBlack on Jul 30, 2008 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
do 80 year old ladies want to look like 80 year old ladies?
Hah! The answer would be “no,” and that’s why Parsons exercises, and why I’ll be hitting the weights when I’m 80 too (though hopefully not the plastic ones).
Sheesh. Must have been a slow day at the TIMES…
by Andrew Heffernan on Jul 30, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nonsense
Tara Pope was on the Today show recently. Pretty clear that she does not aspire to Dara Torres’ body. I ain’t gay, and she has a beautiful, awesome body. Unbelievable dedication, perseverance, determination. How could you not admire her. On the other hand, her body is mostly unattainable for those gainfully employed in a “normal” job. Parsons’ looks great for her age, and seems to be doing well. Congrats to both.
But, the snarky TPP seems to be way jealous..
by siliconwarrior on Jul 30, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
As a fairly dedicated female weightlifter, I want to thank you for pointing out the sexist and lame assumptions behind this ridiculous article. I made the mistake of reading it, and the comments, and then of course was highly irritated by all the “women should be soft” “women aren’t biologically supposed to have muscle” posts. I find it very interesting that people in real life often ask me for advice on weightlifting and compliment my physique, but on the internet, female athletes and sometimes even just athletic female celebrities whose muscles can be seen without a microscope are excoriated for their unfeminine looks. It’s really too bad that societal norms rather than science dictate attitudes towards women and exercise.
by cc47 on Aug 8, 2008 11:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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