Six Weeks to...the Same Old You?
The New York Times gave this account of an experiment conducted to determine the noticible results of a six-week exercise program:
CARL FOSTER, an exercise physiologist...was amused by ads for a popular piece of exercise equipment. Before-and-after photos showed pudgy men and women turned into athletes with ripped bodies of steel. And it all happened after just 12 weeks of exercising for 30 minutes three times a week...
"We said: ‘Wait a minute. You can’t change yourself that much,’ " Dr. Foster said. [He] recruited sedentary people for a six-week exercise program. Would objective observers notice any changes in their bodies?
The plan was to photograph volunteers wearing skimpy bathing suits and then randomly assign them to one of three groups: cardiovascular exercise, weight lifting or control. Six weeks later, they would be photographed again.
Their heads would be blocked out of the photos, which would be shuffled. Then the subjects and judges would rate the body in each photo on a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being spectacular.
The volunteers were men, age 18 to 40...And they were sedentary.
So, before reading any further: what do you think happened? Need I ask?
The question being posed by the experiment, it seems to me, is not whether exercise can make you look better in six weeks, but can NOT make you look better in six weeks?
Thou need'st no ghost come from the grave to tell us this.
Of course it can. All you have to do is put a group of people on a crappy program, give them no dietary guidance, and wait around with your camera for six weeks, cackling wildly: This will show them...exercise doesn't work! It's all a sham!
This seems like testing whether it's possible to build a light bulb that won't illuminate.
Here's how it (predictably) shook out, according to the article:
The subjects rated themselves more highly than anyone else rated them, and female panelists rated the subjects lower than the male subjects or panelists rated them. But, over all, the subjects’ ratings barely changed, if at all, after their exercise program. And neither did objective measures, like weight or percentage of body fat, or waist size or the size of the bicep or thigh.
I think it's funny that the guys in the experiment cut themselves some slack and rated each other relatively high compared to the brutally-honest women who rated them. Perhaps they showed mercy to one another in hopes that the others would do the same?
But the women let the guys have it but good. A window into the precise degree of discernment with which the fair sex is evaluating us, eh, lads?
I digress. The article goes on to suggest that it takes much longer than six weeks to make visible changes in your physique, and cites some inspiring examples of people who have lost lots of weight over years of effort.
It's true that many of the physical transformations you see as part of the advertising materials for fitness products are nonsense.
But in truth, six weeks is enough time--I'd even suggest plenty of time--to affect visible change in the body if the program is good, if there's a solid dietary component, and if the individual applies themselves.
The study doesn't seem to be refuting the specific claims of any particular piece of advertising, just the notion that it's possible to change the way you look with exercise in a relatively short span of time. And, shocker, it is tough to do. And it's rare. But impossible? No way.
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Impossible in 6 weeks without diet intervention
Looks like the study had a huge selection bias: People who are sedentary and “were sorta like dumplings” probably have a really bad diet to begin with.
It’s extremely rare to see somebody watch what they eat and also stay sedentary. I mean, if you’re able to watch what you eat, you probably have the will power to get up and move too. Or put another way, the only people that bother to watch what they eat are the ones that are already moving and want to improve at whatever activity they do.
So if you already have a dumpling-type body, six weeks of exercise with no diet intervention is not enough for the vast majority of people to make a visible change. It’s really hard to out-train a poor diet.
I guess that's really a challenge
Is it possible to come up with a 6-week exercise program with only 30 min, 3 times a week and no dietary intervention, and affect a visible change in a good percentage of people?
There’s a lot of money to be made if any such program worked.
agree with both you Andrew and Ecto here.......
I havent been the most consistant work out buff all my life……going hard for 6-12 months….taking off a few months…dealing with personal stuff…..you know…life whatever…..but I know that when I’ve put my heart into doing what needs to be done I can notice some physical change in anywhere from 4-6 weeks……..my muscle memory and other factors may contribute to that….I dont know…..but I know it can be done….like you guys said…..its all about diet and the program.
12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 23, 2009 6:42 PM EST reply actions
Exercise parameters not indicated in the article...
…so I don’t know if it was 30 min/3x/week or something else. If the time commitment were that small and no dietary guidelines were indicated, it would indeed be a feat to affect change. Cockeyed optimist that I am, I still think it may be possible with a great plan.
by Andrew Heffernan on Jan 23, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions
I dont know about losing weight, but gaining is a physical change too, and thats something I have experienced.
I am now into my eighth week of training and I have gained 24.6 pounds. So I think physical change that makes you look and feel better over a six-eight week period is definately possible.
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
man Im jealous what kinda caloric intake you got going on there?
Im trying to drop down some……so Im getting by on 1500-1600 calories a day…..and its no bueno
12/19/08 - Thank you KLJ for coming into my life.
by norcaliangelsfan on Jan 24, 2009 2:23 AM EST up reply actions
honestly I wouldnt know
I dont really count calories or anything like that
"Ask Philly was it hard tryin' a stop TO, he da main reason that the fans would come fo'."
by aussie_cowboy on Jan 25, 2009 9:23 AM EST up reply actions
Not to pile on,
I’m taking in nearly 4000 calories a day and I can’t get above 176 pounds.
A New Study @ Cambridge shows that 3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the population of the U.S.
Im so sick of studies. I think we all know how the body works and what to do and what not to do. Its embedded in our DNA. Call it: “Gut Instinct”. Why is everything made out to be some horrible micromanaged mystery. Besides, EVERYTHING works for a weeks. Especially with someone completely sedentary. What exactly was learned from this “Study”.
Only after disaster can we be resurrected.
Real example
Check out this website:
http://www.menshealthchallenge2008.info/progress.html
I think each of the participants has progressed significantly over the last 2 months.
Judged from my own experience I would say real change happens after 3 months of steady diet & training. However, 6 weeks are enough to see a (moderate) change.
Cheers
TTC
PS: I read some weeks ago an article by a so called nutrition guru and he gave his opinion on vitamin tablets. One guy asked if this is only changing the color of the urine (as you also stated once in your blog) and the “guru” absolutely denied this and said it is doing good. If you are interested, I can post the link to the interview. Maybe one should not forget that T-Nation is owned by a supp. producer…
Biotest
T-Nation IS owned by Biotest. But it’s IMPOSSIBLE to forget that from the site. They make no bones about it. There are pictures of gleaming pill bottles ALL OVER that site. And frankly I prefer that approach: they’re wearing their sponsors on their sleeve. Sift through any fitness magazine and guess what? The products being advertised…just HAPPEN to be the ones recommended by the ‘experts’ they consult! Sheer coincidence, no doubt.
The opposite approach is the one I find abhorrent: the unsubtle subtle one. My two-month-old son’s diapers have Mickey Mouse pictures on them. MICKEY MOUSE! Presumably so that he associates Disney with feeling safe and being cared for by his parents. Unbelievable.
by Andrew Heffernan on Jan 24, 2009 9:40 AM EST reply actions
Loaded bias revealed
Well, if you begin at, say, 50 lbs of excess body fat and you exercise for 6 weeks, what’s likely to happen?
What if you really truly hit it, but leave your nutrition the same? 3 × 30 =90 minutes a week. But, you’re really newly dedicated, so you go 45 minutes, 5x a week = 225 minutes.
Assume you are really King some A, so you get 600 incremental kcals per hour…. that’s less than 2400 kcals per week. Even if you’ve got EPOC goin on —unlikely with this cohort -- you’re looking at less than 3500 kcals per week.
So, in 6 weeks with no nutrition changes, you’re gonna lose less than 6 lbs of fat - and if you start with 50 excess lbs, the loss of less than 6 is not that easy to see…. And, no matter what the incremental muscle size, you’re not gonna see it under 44 lbs of fat…
But, keep that up for 5 more cycles, and you’re a changed man or woman…..
15 years putting it on; 7 months taking it off; that’s not so bad
More importantly, there are studies, reported on Berardi’s site among others, that exercise alone will often not result in fat loss….. Folks apparently have a tendency to eat more when they exercise if they are not simultaneously focussed on nutrition changes.
You cannot out train a poor nutrition plan……
by siliconwarrior on Jan 24, 2009 10:51 AM EST reply actions

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