Mike Boyle Knows Squat
Mike Boyle's been circling around this notion for a few years now--in his book Functional Training For Sports, he makes no secret of his suspicion of squats, but in this video, Mike comes out and says it: as a lower-body builder, conventional squats are no good.
Wha--wha? In this article, Coach Mike advocates the Bulgarian Split Squat (he calls it the Rear-Foot-Elevated Split Squat) as the most functional and safest knee dominant exercise out there. In the video he explains more fully why: that the lower back, and not the legs, are the weak link in the kinetic chain on that particular exercise: although the legs are functionally strong in conventional squats, the lower back is in flexed-forward and functionally weak position. Bulgarians essentially reverse that equation: the lower back becomes functionally stronger and the legs functionally weaker. The legs, therefore, tire before the lower back on Bulgarians.
As I've written here in the past, I've been bitten in the ass (or, more accurately, in the lower back) enough times by conventional squats that I've started to amass strategies to work around them in my training, and often in the training of my clients as well (that's my personal bias showing, but trainers will always teach what's worked for them...we can't help it). At this point, I'll throw squats into the mix only occasionally.
I spent years trying to nail down perfect form on the exercise, getting my hips and ankles mobile enough to squat low, dropping back to weights that would make twelve-year-old girls laugh and building back up to something semi-respectable by tiny increments over the course of months...all to no avail. No matter how patient I was, I'd always wind up getting hurt.
I imagine Mike's proclamation will ruffle quite a few feathers in the strength-training community, and that a lot of people will disagree with his blanket appraisal of squats: sure, some people can't tolerate squats, but what about short guys? What about the Franco Columbus of the world, the guys who look like they were born with 400-pound Olympic bars on their shoulders?
(This guy can squat).
To them I say, have at it. But Mike's livelihood depends on his ability to make professional athletes stronger and fitter while keeping them healthy. If he injures his athletes--or if they aren't as strong or fit as possible--his livelihood suffers. He's got a massive population of highly motivated athletes at his disposal, and he's always fiddling with new ways to make them improve safely. I don't know, but when a guy like that pipes up, even with as radical a theory as "Don't Squat"--I'm apt to listen.
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I spent years trying to nail down perfect form on the exercise, getting my hips and ankles mobile enough to squat low, dropping back to weights that would make twelve-year-old girls laugh and building back up to something semi-respectable by tiny increments over the course of months…all to no avail. No matter how patient I was, I’d always wind up getting hurt.
Have you ever thought that maybe ab strength is actually your limiting link? If your abs are too weak to support the weight on your shoulders, it’ll cause your trunk to buckle and you’ll be leaning forward with a lot of stress on your lower back.
Working with low weights won’t help this deficiency. If you have weak abs, squatting isn’t the best way to strengthen them (your abs are only in isometric conditions), especially if you’re squatting with light weight.
You’ve probably heard this before, but maybe trying to do some ab exercises that keep you upright to mimic the standing squat position. Maybe hanging leg raises, trunk lateral flexions with dumbbells, and throwing the rope over your neck, hooking it up to a cable and doing trunk flexions.
Just a thought and I apologize that this is only tangentially related to your post.
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by gorilla_baller on Oct 23, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Certainly possible...
The thing is though—as far as my own workouts go, I’m done trying to solve the mystery. Heavy squats have stung me enough times that I’ve learned my lesson.
Fundamentally, I want my legs to be functionally strong and look good—both of which I can accomplish with single leg moves—Bulgarians included—and deadlift variations, more effectively, and less painfully, than with squats. For me, squatting heavy only adds the ego stroke of being able to say I squat big numbers, which for me isn’t that important at this phase in the game.
I can take less than 100 pounds, throw it on my shoulders, and crank out three sets of 15 Bulgarians with a 30 second break between sets and wake up the next morning with my quads and glutes in knots and my lower back totally pain free. Can’t do that with squats by a longshot.
Again—this is a highly subjective viewpoint which I don’t recommend to everyone. Some of my clients squat very comfortably and the effort goes right where it should. Just saying: I’m personally ready to hang up my heavy squatting belt for the time being and I’m relieved to hear a pro like Mike Boyle give me a physiological justification for doing so.
by Andrew Heffernan on Oct 26, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AC - Do you use this with clients?
While I respect Mike Boyles quest to find the safest most, effective exercise for his athletes, this exercise is way too awkward for most people. BSS with dumbells is a great exercise, but once you start loading up a barbell, lift one leg off the floor and search for the bench with your rear foot , it is awkward to the point of being dangerous. (unless your in a college gym with a spotter on either side!)
by DRVR8 on Oct 25, 2009 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One man's meat...
…I’ll exchange a little awkwardness in setup for being able to use half the weight and put half the stress on my spinal discs. Again, though—might just be me. I used to love hearing multiple plates on either end of the bar rattling away as I squatted.
Of course they were 10-pounders. But they did make an impressive racket.
by Andrew Heffernan on Oct 26, 2009 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Squats
No doubt, some guys are just built for squatting. I’m 165#, 5’8" with short legs and was apparently built for squatting. For years, my typical leg workout was 4 sets of 10 at 405 after warming up. I never injured my back or knees doing squats. But I killed my back doing heavy leg presses (machine) one day. Go figure. I’ve also been able to get virtually every guy I’ve trained to squat at least 405. Most people- trainers included, simply don’t know how to do them correctly and place the bar far too high on the back. This totally screws up the center of gravity for the lift by shifting it up and forward of where it should be. I agree with gorilla that ab strength plays a crucial role. It takes tremendous ab strength to hold 4-5 or 600 lbs on your back. When guys used to ask me how I got my abs, I’d say “squatting” and walk away to puzzled looks.
by speedfrk on Oct 25, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hats off to ya Speed Freak...
…and to your impressive numbers. Nowhere near that on my best day.
by Andrew Heffernan on Oct 26, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember Tom Platz? The guy could squat 315 for 5 minutes straight without stopping. That’s crazy. Guys like him and Franco obviously had a genetic/mechanical advantage in addition to some pharmaceutical help… But, I do think that most guys can make really significant gains squatting if they have the right training, form, etc.- even if they are not “gifted” like Franco or Platz. The thing with squats is that they are hard and painful and most people just won’t put the effort into them.
by speedfrk on Oct 26, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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